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BluBlood
June 28, 2001, 02:31 PM
At your place of employment...there will be an Associate Director's position opening within the next month. Your office is 99.9% African American. Your director is white. There is a rumor that you have a good chance of obtaining that postion. Your director calls you in the office one day and mention that he will be out of town for the next two weeks. He has a problem with people coming in late or not coming in at all. While he is away, he know the problem will elevate. He wants you to keep an eye on this problem and report to him who is late or did not show for work. He then ends by saying that he greatly appreciates it and you will not be disappointed when he comes back and gives you the look. The look where he is saying that you be the tattletale, the position is yours look. What do you do? What would you do? http://server2048.virtualave.net/ruinsmiley//PAGE6_files/95.gif

Warndalyn
June 28, 2001, 02:40 PM
Well Blu, this is a toughy. I don't think I'd be able to do it being the type of person I am. I've never been the tattletale, kiss @ss, suck up, type befo.....maybe that's why I'm not further along in my career than I am now, huh?:rolleyes:

Personally, I think it's a sorry way for the director to narrow down his decision process. It should be based on qualifications not bull****.

MsJag4Jag
June 28, 2001, 02:44 PM
I am not a brown noser... so I don't know.

jelli
June 28, 2001, 03:07 PM
I personally don't trust white folks...so I wouldn't do it. I don't think that is proper way to decide.:(

SheJag
June 29, 2001, 01:10 AM
hmmm

SheJag
June 29, 2001, 01:11 AM
As Wclef says:

"Why should I be a spy, when you spying me,
And you see whatcha thought ya saw but never seen.
Ya missed ya last move, Checkmate! Crown me King"

Or Queen in this case....but nope, wouldn't do it. I'd have reservations about someone who'd ask me to do dirt anyway. Might be a set up where I dig the dirt, give the info, and then he?ll say he needs a ?team player? in the Associate Director?s position that the other employees can trust.....leaving me up the creek without a paddle.

LMBH
June 29, 2001, 01:34 AM
Don't even consider it. Even though it might help the "only white" director in his pursuit to eliminate employees or decline performance raises, generally those who assist by being informants are not trusted even by those who need the negative information. Furthermore, the one who is informed on may one day be the boss of the informer.

AAMU Big Dawg
June 29, 2001, 02:53 PM
I don't have to be a spy or a snitch to watch who comes and goes in my office. If you don't come to work and I don't say anything, I'm not spying, I'm covering your azz. Will that make me a better co-worker?

On the surface, Blublood seems to limit us to two choices, snitch or be down with the crowd. I see something else. I see an opportunity to "stay down" while scoring points with the boss. If he's got a problem with no shows and tardy folks, make an effort to talk to them when he's (the boss) is not around. If I can increase productivity and keep the lines of communication open with my co-workers, I've acheived some sort of victory.

But if my brothers and sisters still want to play around while the boss is out, I'm not letting them take me down at the same time. If you don't come to work on a regular basis, I've got to do my assignment and yours. I'm already pissed at you. Don't think I'm going to cover for you when he comes back. When he asks, "Who did this report?", my hand is up. "Who closed the Jones deal?", right here buddy. I'm shining while the spotlight is on me.

Besides, I need the extra cash the promotion will bring. Maybe I can get little Susie that operation so she can get rid of the leg braces. :p

jelli
June 29, 2001, 04:39 PM
lmao @ AAMU Big Dawg:emlaugh: :emlaugh: :emlaugh: :emlaugh: You done put a whole new spin on thangs.....open a sista eyes.:eek: I may have to rethink my position. http://www.fortunecity.com/campus/ink/659/dorky05.gif

Robber
June 29, 2001, 05:34 PM
If your arse wanna be in management, you gotta play the part. If you're ultimately given the position, do you say nothing when your underlings come and go when they wanna???

D-NICE
June 30, 2001, 02:01 PM
Blu, I'd rat on them mofo's so fast, everybody in the office will be calling Mighty Mouse.

Stop worrying about being a snitch, because if you don't somebody else will, and believe me the person who accepts, will definitely rat on you if you're late, and seeing that you turned the opportunity down, what do you think will happen to you?

You have one, of 2 choices, either eat cheese at work, and be able to pay for it, or stand in line to get that same cheese, only then you'll be getting it from being unemployed.

I know you have to be cool at work, and all, but you will never move up the corporate ladder, being cool, sometimes, you have to make the unpopular decision in the office, if you want to move up.

Some people will call you a sell-out........but oh-well, I don't see sell-outs sitting around complaining, about not being promoted. Not to mention, the same people you'll be protecting, will take advantage of you, if you do get the position, because they know you won't rat.

They'll keep coming in late, keep taking extended breaks, keep goofing off, and won't change, because Blu is cool.

NICE

Robber
June 30, 2001, 07:38 PM
Exactly, D-NICE!!! IF you're interested in advancement, you can't be worrying about what your co-workers are gonna think of you for doing what the job you're trying to get requires. And with the attitude of "the person you report on may be your boss one day," you would never do anything that would adversely affect anyone on your job ever. Since they may be your boss one day.

If a person can't understand that you're doing your job then to hell with them. Holla at their ass as they walk out the door. Being in an authoritative position requires you to make tough decisions. You don't always have to be hard or ruthless.

EB
June 30, 2001, 08:35 PM
This is not always an easy situation. But you had better watch your back.

I am with what D-NICE, Robber, and AAMU Big Dawg said. Look at it like this. You may protect those "brothers and sisters." (In this case those terms should be used lightly.) But will they look out for you when the time comes? Will they respect you? Or will they pull you down when the opportunity comes?

Look. I am all for Black unity. In corporate America I see that Black unity is needed more than before. (THAT IS WHY THEY SHOULD COME IN ON TIME AND ACT RIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE!) When one looks at it, they are hurting the unity that needs to exist.

One could talk to the problem person in private (sister to sister, sister to brother, brother to sister and brother to brother) and tell them what the deal is. But if they do not understand, you have to let them go.

Therefore in a case like this, one had better watch out for themselves.

TSU/BAMA
June 30, 2001, 10:39 PM
You know, EB, I really look forward to reading your posts. You make some good points.

EB
June 30, 2001, 11:28 PM
Thanks TSU/BAMA. But D-NICE and Robber essentially said it all.

Consider this. Let's say that someone had a sick child or parent, and there time outside of work was occupied. Let's also say that I knew about their situation. If they came in a little late and especially if they were tired because of their sick relative, I would not say a word. After all I would know their situation.

Also, I did not grow up telling on everyone. As a matter of fact I hardly told on anyone. But I do not want people to take advantage of me either.

chocalate_topaz
June 30, 2001, 11:41 PM
I say if your supervisor has handed you the reins while he is gone, do the job expected of you. As has been said time and time again, people are responsible for their own actions. YOU are not making them come in late or be absent when they should be at work. By running a lax ship, this WILL reflect badly on YOU, not your coworkers. He didn't leave them in charge of diddly.

If you want to make friends, have them over to your house. If you want to become an effective administrator, give them a pep talk, refresh the rules in everyones mind and let the chips fall where they may.:cool:

Batman
July 1, 2001, 08:15 AM
My boss left me in charge for a few days, and while I didn't have to report who came in late, I did have to give him a status report of what happened that week.

Did it occur to anyone that maybe Blu is one of a few people who are qualified to take this position? If you are constantly late, then that tells me that you don't want the position anyway. It also tells me that you view this job as just that: A JOB, not a career. When it comes time for layoffs, you know there has to be some method to the madness, and they usually start with the LATE and unproductive people.

If they have family problems, then they should inform their boss anyway. You telling the boss that won't hurt you if he already knows that particular situation. Don't sweat it, Blu, do your thang.

You can't be everyone's friend at work. And if they don't like it, they know where to go. :)


Blu, I'd rat on them mofo's so fast, everybody in the office will be calling Mighty Mouse.

LOL

aamuprettywoman
July 1, 2001, 02:27 PM
I wouldn't report it directly to the boss, but he'd find out!:emlaugh:

Robber
July 1, 2001, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by aamuprettywoman
I wouldn't report it directly to the boss, but he'd find out!:emlaugh:

And what if he comes directly to you and asks???? Then what???